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    What Happened To Boxings Golden Age? A Freakonomics Quorum

    Annika Mengisen



    Bruce Silverglade at Gleasons Gym, Brooklyn, NY
    Sports fan or not, chances are youve heard of Sugar Ray Robinson, George Foreman, and Rocky Marciano.
    But unless you follow boxing, you probably havent heard of Antonio Margarito, who recently beat Miguel Cotto to become a three-time welterweight champion.
    This disparity may explain why boxing isnt as popular as other U.S. sports today, writes East Side Boxings Aaron King:
    [a friend of mine] loves all sports, including boxing I asked him why he didnt enjoy the sport as much as he did others, and he gave me a short response. I dont see the fighters on SportsCenter.
    So why arent we hearing boxers names alongside the likes of Brett Favre and Leon Powe?
    We gathered a group of people who fight and/or know the sport well Bob Margolis, Bruce Silverglade, Kasia Boddy, and Andre Henry and asked them the following questions:
    Will boxing ever again see a golden age in popularity, comparable to football and baseball today?
    Why are the 1920′s often referred to as a golden age for the sport?
    Why is modern-day boxing compared to horse racing?
    (The two were often legalized together.)
    Here are their responses. Feel free to share your theories as well.
    Bruce Silverglade, president of Gleasons Gym, Brooklyn (former training headquarters for Muhammad Ali), former president of the Metropolitan Amateur Boxing Federation and chairman of the National Junior Olympic Committee, matchmaker, promoter, and booking agent.
    Since we are changing from one group of athletes (blacks) to others (Hispanics and Eastern Europeans), we are on down time. When the transition is complete the chances are better that the superstar will be there.
    I know that everything goes in cycles. There will be another golden age just because it will happen.
    Boxing is still popular in the United States though we have slipped from the levels of the past. This is due to competition from other sports. When there was a smaller baseball season and a smaller football season and no other major sport, boxing ruled. Now that the major sports have expanded and a huge variety of other sports are available for viewing, boxing is getting squeezed out.
    The nature of boxing prohibits it from being like other sports. A boxer only fights once, twice, or maybe three times a year. Their audience cant match the audience of the N.Y. Yankees that play 162 times a year. However, when the exciting boxer has a date, he garners a huge one night audience. The statistics for Pay-Per-View bear this out. The largest audiences for any PPV shows are always boxing.
    We are getting many Eastern Europeans into the sport. They are the latest group of immigrants. Some are talented and if one or two superstars emerge the golden age will be here.
    The thing that excites the public is talent. If a boxer is talented, he is exciting and people want to follow him. Half the people love him and want him to win and half the people hate him and want him to lose. But they all watch and follow his career. There is always a possibility for a superstar. You can not predict when he will arrive. Since we are changing from one group of athletes (blacks) to others (Hispanics and Eastern Europeans), we are on down time. When the transition is complete the chances are better that the superstar will be there.
    Marketing always helps. But it really comes down to the boxer. If the boxer has talent and is exciting the marketing will spread the word. If the boxer is not talented and exciting the people will not continue to tune in.
    Boxing can be seen on TV seven nights a week, 52 weeks a year. That isnt too bad.
    Boxing has several parts to it: Professional, which has some excitement and is on TV all the time, amateur, which is exciting but has very little viewership (there will be coverage of boxing in the Olympics), and recreational boxing which is bursting at the seams. Every gym in America today offers boxing classes. This growth in popularity has happened over the past 15 years.
    The golden age of boxing that you refer to in your question, 1920, is only one of many golden ages. The late 1700′s produced a golden age in America when the European (especially English) boxers brought the sport to our shores. The mid and later 1800′s had a tremendous amount of boxing all across America. Since the 1960′s we have had the Muhammad Ali era, The Sugar Ray Leonard era, and the Mike Tyson era. Yes, the 1920′s was an exciting time for boxing with the great influx of immigrants to The United States. The era produced more Jewish champions than any other sport. The Irish and Italians also excelled.
    In conclusion, I would like to state that boxing will be around long after the other sports are done away with. When there were the first three men on earth, two of them got into a fight and the third cheered them on. The same thing will happen when there are only three men left on earth again.
    I have heard the sport of boxing being compared to the sport of horse racing. This reference is not especially directed at modern-day boxing. Usually the reference has to do with the boxer being treated like a horse.
    The boxer, usually, has very little to say about when he fights, who he fights, how often he fights, how much he will earn per fight, or anything else about his career. Also, like a horse, anything can happen on a given day I think this type of comparison is disrespectful to the boxer.
    Andre Henry, the 2007 141 lb. Open NY Metro Champion and 141 lb. Open Silver Gloves winner in the Daily News Golden Gloves, a first degree black belt in a hybrid kick boxing style, and a black belt in Judo and Ju Jitsu.
    The only way we can increase the popularity of boxing is to take small steps and inform one person at a time.
    I dont believe that boxing will ever be able to compare in popularity to baseball or football. America was built on these sports even soccer has a hard time competing. as far as boxing is concerned, we have to first try to open the eyes of people who are against boxing.
    To some boxing is a sport thats too barbaric and should be banned from television; where I can personally say that boxing has saved my life and turned my life around completely.
    Boxing is a sport where two athletes are trying to out think each other like a game of chess, trying hard to set the other person up for checkmate.
    In chess we use pawns and various other pieces to control the middle of the board. In boxing we use our jab along with other punches to control the tempo of the match. When you look outside the box and look at the bigger picture, boxing is a sport that brings out the best in an individual in all aspects of their life.
    The only way we can increase the popularity of boxing is to take small steps and inform one person at a time. Unfortunately good news doesnt spread as quickly as bad news.
    Image from Boxing: A Cultural History, Advertisement for TV Fights, The Ring, February 1955
    Kasia Boddy, English teacher at University College, London and author of Boxing: A Cultural History.
    The myth of a golden age requires a consensus about what and who matter. Within boxing, there is no such consensus.
    The 1920′s were referred to as a golden age of sport in general, and of boxing in particular after the twenties were over. In other words, the idea of golden ages is inevitably a nostalgic one.
    There have been golden ages of boxing since the 3rd century A.D. when Philostratus looked back to the good old days before the energetic became sluggards, the hardened became weak, and Sicilian gluttony gained the upper hand. In the 1950′s, The New Yorkers A.J. Liebling wrote wistfully that the arrival of televised boxing marked the end of a heroic cycle (which he located in the 1930′s and 40′s). Today the period most keenly remembered is that of the late 1960′s and early 70′s, a time dominated by Muhammad Ali; a time, as one documentary put it, when we were kings. The [era of the] late 70′s and early 80′s is another candidate for some.
    Yet certain factors mark out the 1920′s. The major difference between boxing before 1920 and afterwards was that it became legal, and once legal it could become big business.
    At the heart of the business was Madison Square Garden, which, in close partnership with the Hearst Corporation, made boxing fashionable. The sports pages of national newspapers were first introduced by Hearst in 1895; by 1929, research by the American Society of Newspaper Editors revealed, one out of four readers bought a paper for the sports page. The editors voted Jack Dempsey the greatest stimulation to circulation in 20 years.
    Boxing also benefited from the development of radio into a mass medium. The first title fight to be broadcast live was the 1921 Dempsey-Carpentier fight the first million-dollar gate but also a calculated mismatch. And this was not the only respect in which 20′s boxing was merely gold-plated. The moment Dempsey won his title in 1919 he announced that he would draw the color line. There was no money to be had in matching Dempsey against black opponents such as Harry Wills who might have actually beat him.
    Will boxing ever again see a golden age ?
    I dont think so.
    Today its hard to think of any sport in terms of golden ages. The myth of a golden age requires a consensus about what and who matter. Within boxing, there is no such consensus.
    The television era has seen the proliferation of governing bodies and Alphabet Titles. Only a limited constituency of hard-core boxing fans care to keep track. More generally, boxing now competes in an over-crowded sports market. No single sport or sportsman can lay claim to the kind of fame possible in the 20′s.
    Boxing and horse racing developed in parallel in 18th-century England. Both appealed to wealthy aristocrats who liked to gamble. With large bets came the need for rules. In boxing, these first came in 1743; after 1746, gamblers adopted the notion of horse handicapping and began to divide boxers into weight categories.
    Bob Margolis, content manager at Thomson-Reuters and jazz guitarist who has trained for boxing at Gleasons Gym in Brooklyn for 18 months.
    I wonder if the American audience in this current day and age wants to deal with something as raw as the sweet science.
    Considering the intermixing of corporate America and football and baseball, [boxing] reaching their level of popularity is like a third party gaining the presidency!
    When the sport becomes regulated and the point system changed, then it has a shot. By rarely having one undisputed champion in a given weight class, the titles awarded become meaningless.
    Why not regulate the types of gloves used and other external factors that can influence a fighter or the fights outcome? Its not that different from seeing what happens when the free market runs unwatched a mess which hurts many. So imagine what goes on in a sport as violent and on the edge as boxing. How many fighters need to be hospitalized after a 12 round fight?
    The amateur game is relatively safe compared to football, but also soccer! So, if the idea that a jab counts as much as a powerful shot, then the strategy, movement, and nuanced maneuvering which make the sport so beautiful will be revealed.
    Its also a brutally honest sport despite the presence of pageantry. I wonder if the American audience in this current day and age wants to deal with something as raw as the sweet science. Like jazz music, what seems straightforward, easily understood, and mastered is, well, not.
    Regarding the idea of the 1920′s and 30′s as boxings golden age? I suppose when Jack Dempsey was on the scene that couldnt hurt. Maybe Joyce Carol Oates went overboard when she called him the very embodiment of hunger, rage, the will to do hurt; the spirit of the Western frontier come East to win his fortune.
    But she has a point: in a way, boxing might have been an extension of Frederick Jackson Turners frontier theses from the late 1800′s. This was also the time of classic liberalism which placed the emphasis on the individual, not the collective. So what better example than boxing?
    Besides the obvious betting angle, I would think there is a crossover of fight fans and those who go to the track. But also both sports are forever linked to corruption and all sorts of dirty activity, which probably increases their popularity.
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    Charlie Brown

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